The pre-rambling shall be quick today.
I went out food shopping this morning and came back with this.
What it is is a limited edition GW dice
shaker. Ok, it sounds tacky, but it was only £4 and when you have as
many dice as I do accumulated through 5th edition, the
board becomes so covered in them that you need to spread a big space
to roll dice in, so I'm going to be using this to keep all of my dice
in during games. Plus it's pretty good for keeping my pens, etc in.
It's veneered leather on the outside and fabric on the inside,
although it's mainly block is plastic. Still, it looks quite nice.
Anyway, I need to get some more Heavy
Support done, so here come 2 in one post. I'm putting these two
together because they're very similar to the Predator and Vindicator
that we already know. So I'm going to run through the Chaos upgrades
that they can take and judge how useful they are on the units rather
than the units as a whole.
Combi-Bolter. I really think that this
is an insignificant upgrade. If you have 5pts spare, fine, why not?
But really I don't think that it'll have a great effect. I can see
this more on the Vindicator than the Predator, simply because it
matches the range of the Demolisher Cannon, and might mop up a 1 that
you rolled when wounding with the main gun. Actually, I think that
this weapon is worth taking, especially on the Vindicator, just as
some defence against weapon destroyed results. The reason you take a
Vindicator is for that cannon, if you lose it you've lost the primary
use of your Vindicator, so for 5pts I'd say that it's worth it.
The same can't be said for the Dirge
Caster. Both of these vehicles are probably going to be sitting back
and shooting, especially the Predator, and you don't want to get your
Vindicator too close either, so you aren't going to be close enough
to enemy units a lot of the time to get the effects of Dirge Casters
of.
The Dozer Blade might be useful on the
Vindicator due to it's tendency to move around a lot, but then for
5pts more you can get a Siege Shield. That said, I think that the
Dozer Blade is probably the better option as what are the odds that
you'll fail more than one Dangerous Terrain check?
Warpflame Gargoyles, no on the
Vindicator, you'll be causing enough damage anyway. No on the
Predator too, a lot of the time you'll be shooting light armour with
that, so these aren't great, and when shooting at infantry, anything
that is particularly effected by the Autocannon is likely to be
horde-like in nature (4+ save or worse), and so Warpflame Gargoyles
won't do much. Although for 5pts it isn't bad.
Combi-weapons are a no too, they're ok
I suppose, but I wouldn't take them, more points to spend elsewhere.
The flamer is too short ranged for these, I'm only likely to get 1
shot off the plasma at non rapid-fire and I wouldn't say that's worth
10pts and the Melta suffers from the same problem as the flamer.
Extra armour isn't that great anymore
on any vehicles because you're more fussed about the loss of the hull
points and if you've suffered that result your vehicle is likely to
be in trouble anyway whether you get that more or not.
The Havoc Launcher might be ok, I think
that it's a good upgrade on most vehicles. I think that it depends on
what you want your vehicle for. The Predator is for light armour, the
Havoc Launcher is not useful here. The Vindicator smashes heavy
infantry, the Havoc Launcher won't really help here. Leave this
upgrade for the Rhinos.
Destroyer Blades. Yes I love this
upgrade, but I'm not going to be running over infantry very often
with either of these vehicles, so why bother? Especially at that
points cost.
I'd also say that Daemonic possession
isn't worth it. I don't think that you want to be taking anything
that will be decreasing your shooting effectiveness here. They're
both durable anyway with that AV13 and at the same points cost as the
Destroyer Blades but with the addition of making your shooting less
effective.
So in short, I'd give your Predators
and Vindicators the Combi-Bolter as some insurance against losing
your main gun, but that is all.
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